User talk:Miyuki
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Wiki Forum pages
I have been thinking about removing the entire Forum pages and all of its subsections. Simply seems redundant. But I want your feedback and opinions before I do this. The tables on the main heading Forum pages in this new wiki are broken and do not find worth trying to fix that currently since have been thinking about removing these pages for a long time now. So will use the old wiki links to this when referencing. So the Forum:Index page https://fishwrangler.fandom.com/wiki/Forum:Index which lists all the Forum subsections. On that index page is really only 3 subheading sections, appears other 2 were not enabled, created or used.
The first Forum:Help Desk https://fishwrangler.fandom.com/wiki/Forum:Help_desk which is a subheading page intended for use as dual purpose of the ingame Forums / Discussions. In other words a redundant section of the ingame forms, except to be used here in wiki. Imho this was fine back in the day when Wiki had more active users and knowledgeable users that took the time and effort to answer these questions. But that has not really been done for a very long time now since wiki activity diminished. Imho again this just seems redundant now and simply see no need for this. I especially think this subheading should be removed as players can simply use the ingame forums for this from more active area with actual responses. By the time anyone notices these here in Wiki since no one really monitors this here that well, they are so old. And again just seems redundant to me with no current purpose anymore.
The second Forum:Watercooler https://fishwrangler.fandom.com/wiki/Forum:Watercooler which was intended to be used solely for help and discussions of actual Wiki itself. But looking at list of pages there, I DO see some that are actually done for this as intended appropriately. Such as Saving New Pages :) and Editors Please Read - Admin & Bureaucratic Rights and Looking to train new FW moderators + develop chat. However a majority of it simply has been abused by players unknowledgeable with Wiki using this as another Forums / Discussion area. Instead of the appropriate Forum:Help Desk. So IF I remove that Forum:Help Desk section as I suggested above, just see this continuing to happen if not worse since will not be that section anymore for players to find. Just again do not see a need for this mostly due to such low player activity here in Wiki and again no one really monitors this due to that low editor activity. PLUS each page already has its own 'Discussions' page so again imho just seems redundant for most part. IF it were used appropriately and someone took time to monitor this and keep it updated, that would be fine. But realistically just do not see that happening. So think it should be simply removed.
The third is Forum:Discussion https://fishwrangler.fandom.com/wiki/Forum:Discussion intended to discuss new content. But looking at this and it has been rarely ever used. Likely because there was never any direct link from FW Wiki main home page, unlike the other 2 sections above which do have direct links. I propose the intent and title needs to be changed. Which leads to what I have been thinking to clean up this entire Forum area as well as main home page.....
Imho, I propose and think we should get rid of by deleting the entire old Forum wiki areas as well as clean up the main home page. On main Home Page, getting rid of the section "Forums" and both linked Help Desk and Watercooler. Instead use the "Community" section to list "Forums" like I have already done, and then create a Wiki page of that to give brief description in Wiki what it is as well as a link to ingame Forums. No longer need a duplicated area to be found ingame and in Wiki. Also under that "Community" adding a new Wiki Discussions area intended to solely be used to discuss wiki pages and all other wiki related issues and problems. Can then actually put this Wiki Discussions page(s) named as Forum:Wiki_Discussions so that all related topics will be created under that main heading. Can even input a create box that will automatically create the page correctly to be named as such under Forum:<createpage> that any editors input into that box field. Ideally would also like to have all actual Discussion pages linked and generated here as well, but not sure I will be able to go that far. So that would be a possible later thing or not. Thoughts? Kevin "Hawk" Fisher (talk) 06:07, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
- Hi Kevin, that is fine with me. I don't think I ever used those forum pages, preferring to go to the talk pages for specific articles as with regular Wikipedia. So as long as we still have talk pages, then we can use that for specific technical details. As for Fandom, it's up to you all how much longer you want to keep that around. I'll continue to work on efforts here in the meantime. 😸Miyuki (talk) 20:33, 3 April 2021 (UTC)
- Ha ha, no for Fandom. I am done with that old wiki. It will stay around but just become outdated. It has a note as such on the main page as well as link to new one here. I was talking about the pages here in this new Wiki. I only used the links to Fandom as the corresponding pages here, the tables are broken so does not show the list of all the pages under those headings. Like for example Forum:Index shows the text description, but the table below that is empty with a lot of broken code being displayed above the table header. So it does not show all the 5 subheadings under it. Just thought that would make it easier to follow if you wanted to have an actual look at pages being able to see tables filled. And yes, I prefer to use each individual pages talk page as well for the most part. Joe wanted to delete one of them though (Island talk page) :P as apparently when you click on Random Page in the left side bar, it can pull up just a talk discussion page and Joe thought that was simply some unneeded page and did not realize that it was linked to its actual Island article page lol. Kevin "Hawk" Fisher (talk) 02:12, 4 April 2021 (UTC)
